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I have 2 children, 15 and 13 years old. My 15 year old has a 10 month old daughter. Aprox 3 months ago my 15 year old made allegations against fiance of them having "consuel" sex and him being the father of my grandchild. I made a police report, asked him to leave the home, and took her to her therapist to be reecaluated (as she is the victim of abuse from her biological father). Aprox a month after all of this occurred, she told me she had lied about everything. I hired her an attorney and a retraction letter for her statements was issued to dcs and metro police department. I began to recieve multiple phone calls from dcs and metro police department. They would question me over and over again. I responded with call the attorney over and over again. On august 17, 2017 i recieved another phone call from the metro detective. I refused to answer questions yet one more time and told her to call the attorney. The detective told me that was fine that i would not cooroperate with her, shed just get me to cooroperate with dcs. I went and picked up my children from school anf went to the attorneys office to complain about the harrassing phone calls. While at the attorneys office, dcs tryed to call me, they left a message and had gone to my home looking for me. About an hour later my neighbor (my fiances father) called me to tell me there were 2 women at my home looking for me and my kids. He asked if i wanted to speak to them, when i answered yes, he handed the phone to them. The lady got on the phone and identified herself ad the detective. She stated she was there to do a well check on my daughter since she had been signed out of school early. I asked her to hold on and gave the attorney the phone. Meanwhile me and my kids were told to wait in the office by one of the other attorneys. We waited for aprox 2 hours, when the attorney informed us dcs had arrived to take my children. They placed all 3 children in state custody. They did not provide me with any kind of court order, i actually have them on recording refusing to give me a court order. I was finally notified of a court date by phone aprox 4 days later. Aprox 5 days after my kids were taken i appeared in court. They handed me a petition that accused me of being neglect to my kids, said they were dependant and neglected, accused me of being a flight risk by saying i abrubtly moved out of my home (never moved, nor had they ever been in my home), said that i had failed to protect my children by allowing them to be around my fiance. They sent my children to 2, almost 3, foster homes in one week before temporary custody was awarded to my mother. I voluntarily moved out of my home to allow my mother to stay there with my children, just as i voluntarily agreed to supervised visits with my children until the court hearing in oct. As of today i have not gotten to see or talk to my children, as dcs has failed to set up visits despite the court order. I have complained to case workers supervisor, and have made a formal complaint against the metro detective. What can i do from here? Do i have grounds for a lawsuit?

what does your attorney say?

Rebeccar said:

What can i do from here? Do i have grounds for a lawsuit?

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Odd that you are inquiring about a lawsuit, when YOUR 15 year old child has been raped by two men you once bedded down.

One of those men is your daughter's FATHER, and the other was your last lover.

You actually said above:

Rebeccar said:

Aprox 3 months ago my 15 year old made allegations against fiance of them having "consuel" sex and him being the father of my grandchild.

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You then come on the forum not to seek help for your daughter, but for yourself.

If you, or the police REALLY wanted to know who impregnated that little girl, a DNA test could be performed without harm or risk to child or mother.

Eventually a DNA test will be performed, and the science will reveal what vile, lowlife, child molester raped your 15 year old daughter.

My guess, its the one the child gave an outcry about, before you foolishly prompted, goaded, bullied, and intimidated her to "change her story".

Rape victims, rarely lie.
The fact that your 15 year old daughter has been RAPED twice by men you bed down should clue a smart "police" as to just what is happening in your home.

Soon, very, very soon the DNA will speak for the 15 year old girl and that poor, little baby that sits in her abused womb.

What a filthy piece of work you are, woman.

I thank God every day of my miserable life for the two parents I had, what a blessing to me they were.

You, madam, are a curse not only upon your children, but the entire civilized world.

You are a wretched, cursed, evil creature.

A dna test has been done. My grandchild does not belong to neither her biological father nor my fiance. She did infact lie reguarding her statement on my fiance just as she said she had which is why i hired an attorney, and me questioning about a law suit was not only for myself but my childrens behalf also as they are minors. I also am not looking for money, as when i inquire about a suit, it was inquiring about getting my children back to me and doing something to improve the system. I am a working mother who supplied a nice home, vehicles, and good schools for my children. I have no criminal history, and more then enough provided and protected my children.

hrforme said:

what does your attorney say?

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I have an attorney only for custody. He says the children will be returned to me. They have no grounds to take my children from me. A dna has been done, the dna says my daughter lied.

Rebeccar said:

A dna test has been done. My grandchild does not belong to neither her biological father nor my fiance.

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I wish that I could believe you.
If a DNA test had been performed, why were your children removed?
It certainly wasn't because the state felt you were impolite.
Anyway, what I believe doesn't matter.
I know that a 15 year old girl has been raped, TWICE which means more than two times, in my experience.

army judge said:

I wish that I could believe you.
If a DNA test had been performed, why were your children removed?
It certainly wasn't because the state felt you were impolite.
Anyway, what I believe doesn't matter.
I know that a 15 year old girl has been raped, TWICE which means more than two times, in my experience.

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Quite frankly i do not care if you believe me or not. I have documentation to back me up on everything im asking help with. I am not on here asking for judgement or opions. If you can tell me why dcs took my children then maybe we would both know and i wouldnt require help.
Until you have children of your own and you are done wrong with the system you will never comprehend or understand this situation so i ask you kindly to keep your opions to yourself.

Rebeccar said:

Quite frankly i do not care if you believe me or not. I have documentation to back me up on everything im asking help with. I am not on here asking for judgement or opions. If you can tell me why dcs took my children then maybe we would both know and i wouldnt require help.
Until you have children of your own and you are done wrong with the system you will never comprehend or understand this situation so i ask you kindly to keep your opions to yourself.

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Your children were taken because of the serious allegations made by your child, your hissyfits, apparently you were termed a flight risk, and the state desired to protect your children.

That no longer matters.

What you must do now, should you wish to contest their ruling is:

Why a Child Enters Custody
A child can come into legal and physical state custody for three main reasons; or rather something called "committal status."



Resolution of Grievances
If you are dissatisfied with an action taken by DCS you should discuss the situation with your FSW, or their team leader or supervisor.

If the action is one taken by DCS as it follows a court order or one which is the subject of pending judicial proceedings, DCS is obligated to follow the court's decision and cannot change the decision without going back to court. In such a situation, you should contact your attorney to discuss your concerns.

You have the right to take the matter to court, and if you can't afford an attorney, the state will supply one for you.

Grievances should first be addressed through the Child and Family Team Meeting process.

If the issue cannot be resolved by through a CFTM, you can contact the DCS Customer Relations Hotline:

By e-mail: DCS.Custsrv@tn.gov
By phone: 1-800-861-1935
By mail
Department of Children's Services
Customer Relations Unit
UBS Tower, 9th Floor
315 Deaderick Street
Nashville, TN 37243
A customer relations representative, who has not been involved in your case, can review your information and help work through grievances.




Those are:

If the child is found to be neglected or abused;
If the child is found to be delinquent, also referred to as a juvenile justice child who has been found by the Court to have committed an offense which would be considered a crime if it had been committed by an adult; or
The child is unruly, which refers to a child who is in need of treatment or rehabilitation and who habitually, and without justification, is truant from school; is habitually disobedient to the degree that his or her health and safety is endangered; and/or is a runaway.
Note: Juvenile Court judges make the decision, often in consultation with DCS, to bring children into state custody and also have to rule on whether a child exits custody.



Involuntary Surrender
You may lose your parental rights involuntarily if the Judge of a Chancery, Circuit or Juvenile Court finds there are legal grounds for termination and that termination is in the child's best interest. Conditions that can justify termination of parental rights include:

severe child abuse
abandonment
wanton disregard
lack of concern
substantial non-compliance with the permanency plan
conditions that led to removal of the child have not been corrected or other conditions prevent return
10-year prison sentence
mental incompetence of the parent.













Your Client's Rights - TN.Gov

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army judge said:

Odd that you are inquiring about a lawsuit, when YOUR 15 year old child has been raped by two men you once bedded down.

One of those men is your daughter's FATHER, and the other was your last lover.

You actually said above:


You then come on the forum not to seek help for your daughter, but for yourself.

If you, or the police REALLY wanted to know who impregnated that little girl, a DNA test could be performed without harm or risk to child or mother.

Eventually a DNA test will be performed, and the science will reveal what vile, lowlife, child molester raped your 15 year old daughter.

My guess, its the one the child gave an outcry about, before you foolishly prompted, goaded, bullied, and intimidated her to "change her story".

Rape victims, rarely lie.
The fact that your 15 year old daughter has been RAPED twice by men you bed down should clue a smart "police" as to just what is happening in your home.

Soon, very, very soon the DNA will speak for the 15 year old girl and that poor, little baby that sits in her abused womb.

What a filthy piece of work you are, woman.

I thank God every day of my miserable life for the two parents I had, what a blessing to me they were.

You, madam, are a curse not only upon your children, but the entire civilized world.

You are a wretched, cursed, evil creature.

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Rape victims don't lie about being raped but they can lie about the person who raped them because sometimes they want to protect their rapist depending on who it might be.

Rebeccar said:

Quite frankly i do not care if you believe me or not. I have documentation to back me up on everything im asking help with. I am not on here asking for judgement or opions. If you can tell me why dcs took my children then maybe we would both know and i wouldnt require help.
Until you have children of your own and you are done wrong with the system you will never comprehend or understand this situation so i ask you kindly to keep your opions to yourself.

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Why do people always assume that someone who disagrees with them doesn't have kids?

leslie82 said:

Rape victims don't lie about being raped but they can lie about the person who raped them because sometimes they want to protect their rapist depending on who it might be.

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True, it isn't a lie. The victim is being bullied, intimidated, and scared.

They also might be forced to say RedRum didn't do it, but BlueBell did, because RedRum or his pals scared the person into changing their story.

You have a child who was molested and raped by "someone" in addition to her father. Perhaps your fiance also touched her inappropriately, perhaps he didn't. DCS is entitled to believe her initial statement, especially in light of your complete refusal to cooperate with any sort of investigation. I can't even fathom why you would refuse to do such a thing. You can't just make a highly charged allegation like your fiance raped your young daughter and then call "take backs" because the child told you she lied. We know she lied; either initially or now, or both. Your refusal to cooperate is incomprehensible. Your attorney can be present when they speak with you, but can not be interviewed in lieu of you. It also boggles the mind as to why you would hire an attorney when you did if you weren't trying to hide something. One would think a parent would WANT the police and DCS to find out who raped and impregnated a young teenager. It is a crime no matter how you slice it or who is guilty. That doesn't change just because that teenager retracts her allegation as to who might have been the perpetrator.

I won't ever use my knowledge, my law degree, or my license to practice law to aid and abet anyone desiring to thwart the legal process, or flummox the police.

I've had opportunities to do so, yet by choice I place boundaries around just how far I'll allow myself to go.

ElleMD said:

You have a child who was molested and raped by "someone" in addition to her father. Perhaps your fiance also touched her inappropriately, perhaps he didn't. DCS is entitled to believe her initial statement, especially in light of your complete refusal to cooperate with any sort of investigation. I can't even fathom why you would refuse to do such a thing. You can't just make a highly charged allegation like your fiance raped your young daughter and then call "take backs" because the child told you she lied. We know she lied; either initially or now, or both. Your refusal to cooperate is incomprehensible. Your attorney can be present when they speak with you, but can not be interviewed in lieu of you. It also boggles the mind as to why you would hire an attorney when you did if you weren't trying to hide something. One would think a parent would WANT the police and DCS to find out who raped and impregnated a young teenager. It is a crime no matter how you slice it or who is guilty. That doesn't change just because that teenager retracts her allegation as to who might have been the perpetrator.

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I hired a lawyer to protect my childs rights. She claimed she lied, i did not want my daughter going to jail for a false report. It is hard for you to fanthom any of this im sure because you have never had to be in my shoes. My concern here from the beginning of my childrens lives has been to protect them. It seems as tho no one can even began to understand all the things that run through your mind in this situation. Things like how could this have happened, is my daughter phychologically, physically ok, the man ive known and was planning to marry after 20 years really is he capable of something like this, who would my daughter protect, my poor grandchild has been brought into this world and will now grow up not knowing her father, have i failed as a mother because ive worked all the time to financially take care of my children and have not been able to watch them 24/7, i gave up my home voluntarily for me to be displaced for my children to be at home with their things and family. The system is broken simple as that.

The DNA test should make the issue of paternity known beyond any doubts.

The man you trusted, some of those men rape babies and sell the use of the child's body to their pals.

The police should be able to discover what evil humanoid repeatedly raped that precious baby rather quickly.